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Loose Lips Sink Studies
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Editor's note: In the past few months there has been quite a bit
of conversation in the PH community about the need for a listserv
or message-board for UT-15 patients and families. Since this site
has a number of highly specific forums, it has been natural for people
interested in UT-15 to request that we put up one of our forums for
that topic. We'd love to do so.
However, the fly in the ointment is that in offering our readers
this "benefit" we would subject them to an unacceptable risk. UT-15
is currently undergoing clinical trials. A number of our staff members
were concerned that conversations among the "experimental subjects"
might spoil the trials, and perhaps destroy the drug's opportunity
to gain FDA approval.
We sought opinions from three of our medical consultants. The opinions
of Drs. Lewis J. Rubin, Director of Pulmonary and Critical
Care at UCSD and Ronald Oudiz, Director, Liu Center for Pulmonary
Hypertension at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, are printed below. Dr.
Oudiz's answer is in the form of a primer on clinical trials; what
follows is "lesson number one".
A third PHCentral medical consultant, Dr. Harold Palevsky,
Director of Pulmonary Vascular Disease at the U of PA, gave us his
ideas in a personal communication. To summarize, he didn't think
we should create a UT-15 forum. We asked him if he didn't think
that people involved in clinical trials were already using the internet
to share their experiences. He was sure that they were. But, he
said, perhaps instead of adding to the problem, PHCentral might
make an attempt to educate the PH community about this issue. If
people understand the "why's" behind requirements, it should improve
adherence to the rules, and that of course will benefit research
on their behalf.
Armond
Aserinsky, Ph.D. PHCentral: "Dr. Rubin, we are considering creating a
forum for UT-15 patients. However, we are sensitive to the ongoing
UT-15 trials and do not wish to compromise their validity. Therefore,
we are requesting your thoughts or concerns about this forum. If
you would prefer that we not establish this forum until the study
has been closed, we would appreciate a brief paragraph expressing
your concerns as well as your permission to present your concerns
to the users of our website."
Dr. Rubin (Lewis J. Rubin, M.D., Professor of Medicine;
Director, Division of Pulmonary/Critical Care Medicine, UCSD Medical
Center): "...I would strongly suggest against creating a forum specifically
for the UT-15 patients: although I think it is very important and
helpful for patients and their families to have a forum to communicate,
I think interactions during an ongoing study can lead to much confusion,
comparison of treatments or treatment regimens which may be inappropriate,
and inaccurate information- all of which could lead to compromising
the study. I would strongly suggest that a forum not be initiated
until the study has been closed which will only be several months
from now. Since many new protocols are also being developed to study
other drugs including several oral or inhaled agents, I believe
that this policy should be carried forward for the future." PHCentral: "Dr. Oudiz, as you may know, we've been asked
by numerous patients to open a discussion "forum" on the topic of
UT-15. We may do so, but we would have to actively monitor the messages
to see that studies were not corrupted by the conversations. That's
a tall order, and for the time being we've simply posted a message
that essentially says that we're taking the matter under advisement.
I think that if we had an article that explained the concepts of
"blinding" (single/double/triple), placebo effects, clinical trials,
FDA approval, and so on, it would help all our readers understand
the science behind medical experimentation. The understanding would
hopefully lower patient frustration and improve adherence of experimental
subjects to study protocols."
Dr. Oudiz: The purpose of the placebo-controlled drug trial
is to insure that no bias affects the outcome of the drug trial.
In general terms, it is important that a patient taking an experimental
drug experience an effect that is due solely to the drug, and not
the so-called "placebo effect." The placebo effect can trick the
patient into thinking he/she is deriving benefit or harm from a
drug when in effect this benefit or harm is actually due to psychosomatic
or incidental causes .
Studies of new or even established drugs have much more powerful
conclusions when conducted using a placebo arm. These include studies
of psychiatric drugs, drugs for heart and lung disease, and even
trials in which vitamins are used. In studies where a placebo arm
was not used, it is extremely difficult to determine if an outcome
was due to equal effectiveness of drug vs no drug, or was the result
of a Type II error; i.e., erroneously concluding that there was
a difference when, in fact, no difference between drug and no drug
existed (or vice-versa).
In conducting a placebo-controlled trial, it is imperative that
the participants, doctors, nurses, and patients alike maintain a
neutral bias with regard to whether or not a patient is receiving
a placebo. It is important, therefore that any discussion about
the likelihood of receiving placebo or real drug does not take place
during the part of the trial in which the placebo is given. This
includes patient-to-doctor, patient-to-nurse, and patient-to-patient
conversations. With the recent widespread use of Internet chat
rooms and bulletin boards, it is especially important that patients
participating in placebo-controlled trials do not discuss details
of the trial with others such as whether or not they think they
are on a placebo.
Participants in placebo-controlled trials are cautioned in discussing
details of their trial before unblinding from placebo, as it may
adversely affect the outcome of the approval process by the Food
and Drug Administration. In addition, even after unblinding from
placebo, a patient discussing details of their trial with another
patient that might still be blinded themselves could violate the
study protocol. Thus, a drug that would otherwise be promising for
use in the treatment of a particular disease might not be approved
for use if there is a suspicion that the placebo arm of the trial
was violated.
All biomedical research should adopt the standards of the Declaration
of Helsinki, a copy of which can be found by clicking on the following
link:
http://www.rcjournal.com/author_guide/helsinki.asp
Editor's note: The response given by Dr. Oudiz can also be found
on his Center's Website along with other useful information. Patient - Lisa Wright: I think the [doctors' comments]
are very helpful. One of them did bring one question to mind, however.
I'm well aware of what I'm not supposed to talk about during the
initial twelve-week blinded portion of the study. Dr. Oudiz's [article]
stated that a forum could also create a problem by intermingling
people who were finished with the blind portion with people who
were still in the blind portion. Does this mean that, once the initial
twelve weeks are over, two people who are both definitely on the
medication (past the first twelve weeks) can privately discuss the
side effects, best medications for side effects, how they're doing,
etc.?
Reply by Dr. Oudiz: I think the answer is that if two people
are on open label drug, they may discuss their cases between themselves.
The idea is simply not to interfere in any way with the blinding
of the study during the first 12 weeks. Patients should just use
their best judgment. Overall, I have seen admirable efforts at doing
so by most patients, but there is always room for improvement.
President and Science Editor, PHCentral
The Liu
Center for the Study and Treatment of Pulmonary Hypertension
October 9, 1999
Editor's note Feb. 28, 2006: Armond is currently a consultant to the board of directors and is the past president and co-founder of PHCentral, Inc.
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